La relación de Dasha Zhukova y Stavros Niarchos Jr. Compromiso, boda y embarazo

[Melisse]

Jess Hart just sort of happened. Stavros didn't see her, fall for her, and pursue her. She gradually infiltrated herself somehow, because she was always around.

Stavros had a best friend, PC Valmorbida, who’s Australian, and they used to always go to this club called Southside together, which was owned by Australians. These club-owners used to always bring in "hot" girls... and one of them was fellow-Australian Jess Hart. Jess Hart was living with Nicolas Potts, her boyfriend of six years, at the time. Nicolas Potts was also Australian and a musician. Jess started leeching onto Stav's group from the very beginning and was always “one of the guys”. She had been around for at least a year, before there were rumors of a relationship. Stav was in a bad place, because things with a girl he had fallen very much in love with for a very long time hadn’t worked out. At times it looked as if he tried to make her jealous with Jess Hart, but failed miserably. The other girl was from his world, very beautiful and everybody wanted to date her. I always thought she was quite arrogant, so I no wonder Jess Hart didn't cut it.

Either way, after as little as a year of officially dating, Jess Hart somehow managed to make Stav rent an apartment with her downtown. Even though he never appeared to be madly in love with Jess either, this was retrospectively a much better relationship than the one he has now with Dasha. Jess had no baggage, she was much better liked by his friends, not initially, but after the first couple of years. She had a cheerful personality, she had a job... even though she wasn't a super successful model, she always had some shoots she would travel to. And she always strived to give Stav as much space as possible - hanging out with her posse of girlfriends, hustling for her career, going back to Australia to spend time with her family, etc. And she never asked anything of him, seemed very grateful for what she was getting out of the relationship - staying in his large apartments, having access to his social circle, vacationing on his boat, his island and in St. Moritz, going to all these parties, such as the Met gala and VF Oscar parties...

Nonetheless, once the 3 year lease was up, Stav didn't renew the contract and moved back to his family's duplex in midtown. The honeymoon phase was long over and imo Stavros had decided by then, that this relationship wasn't going anywhere.

Thereafter came the phase where he wanted to end the relationship and Jess just wouldn't move out. Stavros is super non-confrontational. He wouldn't just sit Jess down and tell her, it's over, please move out, you have two months. Instead, he started treating her horribly. Leaving her to walk 3-5m behind him, ignoring her completely all night long, ditching her at events the moment they had made it past the entrance, rolling his eyes whenever she started talking, withdrawing from her completely, etc. I think he was hoping to make her leave on her own. But Jess ignored his behavior and kept sticking around. After another 3 years it finally came to an end with a bang.


Martin P is a hanger-on, who seems to leech onto people exclusively based on their last names. He’s a clown. I think many keep him around because they have either run out of friends (Euge) or because they suffer from low self-esteem and enjoy having him kiss up to them. Sorry

gracias por la intuición Nunca me gustó Dasha y me pareció extraña, no honesta. Algunas preguntas:

¿Por qué Eugenia no tiene amigos? ¿Cómo es ella en persona?

¿Dasha hizo algún chantaje con Stavros? ¿video? ¿Encontraste algún negocio familiar sucio?

¿Una de las chicas que le gustaba era Paris Hilton? Por favor, di que no, pero no dudo de nada. Intentan actuar como si él solo se estuviera divirtiendo con ella, pero tal vez quieran limpiar su dignidad después de que la haya dejado.


Tengo más preguntas pero están un poco fuera de tema, ¿puedo enviarte un mensaje?

 

[Likeapeach]

gracias por la intuición Nunca me gustó Dasha y me pareció extraña, no honesta. Algunas preguntas:

¿Por qué Eugenia no tiene amigos? ¿Cómo es ella en persona?

¿Dasha hizo algún chantaje con Stavros? ¿video? ¿Encontraste algún negocio familiar sucio?

¿Una de las chicas que le gustaba era Paris Hilton? Por favor, di que no, pero no dudo de nada. Intentan actuar como si él solo se estuviera divirtiendo con ella, pero tal vez quieran limpiar su dignidad después de que la haya dejado.


Tengo más preguntas pero están un poco fuera de tema, ¿puedo enviarte un mensaje?

Hi Melisse, of course. Ask away

Eugenie had a handful of super-tight friends, but they all long got married and have a bunch of kids now. With Bianca, they have started to go separate ways, Eva use both are looking for a husband, and think they stand better chances emancipating themselves. Euge has been trying hard for Alex Flick over the past couple of months. They just spent some time in Yucatán together. Euge is super insecure, I’ll-mannered, envious of any girl who looks better than she does, which is a lot of girls… jealous, and out of her insecurities, her behavior often comes off as anything from rude to downright psychotic.

Not a video. He’s reckless, but not stupid. I have never heard of any involvement in dirty businesses.

Stavros definitely liked Paris Hilton a lot. For one she is actually really nice and fun in person. Further, he enjoyed the attention and the access to famous people and parties. Many people will argue that he could have had this access on his own, and he very well might have, but fact is, he didn't. Fact is that before he started dating MK and Paris, he and the friends he had at the time were worrying about how to even get inside certain clubs in LA.

After the Lindsay Lohan incident, Paris was through with Stav, and he was photographed crying on the lawn in front of her house, begging her to take him back. So at the very least, it must have been puppy love. Also, Stav didn’t mind getting photographed with Paris, I actually think he secretly enjoyed it, and there was lots of PDA. With Dasha there has never been a photo depicting the faintest hint of affection. He seems downright embarrassed about her and avoids photos like the plague.

 

[Likeapeach]

Most people are binary and rather unintelligent: “He married Dasha, so he must love her.” Ok boomer! “They have a child, so he must want to be with/build a future with her” … “They continue to be together, so it's working” … Seriously. Lol. One third of all child births are the result of pregnancy entrapement. None of these women hold a “gun to the man's head” to get pregnant. A few are accidents, and the vast majority simply betray the guy. Further, people don't divorce overnight. The wedding took place mid-January. Beginning of March the pandemic hit Manhattan. By May Manhattan was prospectspay on the world epicenter of the pandemic. In June she must have gotten pregnant. When was he supposed to hand her the divorce papers? A month into the marriage? At the onset of the pandemic? When she was pregnant, or maybe right after she had given birth?

They have been living in separate houses for many many months now though. They got married in France, and in some European countries spouses need to live apart for a year, before they can even file for divorce.

If, purely hypothetically speaking, he had knocked her up, and if she refused to get an abortion, and he really didn’t want a child with her, and she then asked for a big fat wedding in exchange for a termination of the pregnancy, that would be blackmail, yes? That would make the wedding involuntary on his behalf, yes? That would mean even somebody as wealthy as Stav, got “forced” by a nothing like Dasha, yes?

And here is a second, purely hypothetical, scenario for you, she was pregnant, and there is a clause in his trust that an illegitimate child would ruin his prospects on future payouts… and she refuses to have an abortion… he would now again be somewhat “forced”, wouldn’t he?

Just saying….

 

[Likeapeach]

Este hilo es un descojone total. Hay gente muy, muy pirada por estos internetes de dios.

O sea, no solo el Niarchos no la quiere y es muy desgraciado pero se casa y tiene un hijo porque ya se sabe que a los millonarios se les pone una pistola en la sien y hacen lo que una gold-digger de la vida diga. Ahora, ella tampoco le quiere, nunca le ha querido y lo que queria en realidad era camelarse al Bezos.

Nos cuentan lo acotencido en la cubierta del yate de Geffen, uno de los billonarios mas discretos y mas alergicos a la publicidad del mundo como si tuvieran camaras de un reality show y pudieramos seguir en directo el asunto. Si preguntas detalles, te cuenta con pelos y señales lo que pensaba Lauren, de como la miro Jeff, de aquello que dijo Karlie...una especie de retransmision de Rich Housewives de Beverly Hills pero con personajes a los que nadie tiene jamas acceso. Salvo la/el forero.

Mientras tanto los otros siguen casados, y a la Dasha la siguen invitado a cuanto sarao se le ponga por deltante. Eso si, previo chantaje de la mujer.

Lo dicho, delirante.

Yes, David Geffen is so private, the whole world can watch twinks buzzing on and off his yacht around the clock

 

[Gracekelly29]

Hi Melisse, of course. Ask away

Eugenie had a handful of super-tight friends, but they all long got married and have a bunch of kids now. With Bianca, they have started to go separate ways, Eva use both are looking for a husband, and think they stand better chances emancipating themselves. Euge has been trying hard for Alex Flick over the past couple of months. They just spent some time in Yucatán together. Euge is super insecure, I’ll-mannered, envious of any girl who looks better than she does, which is a lot of girls… jealous, and out of her insecurities, her behavior often comes off as anything from rude to downright psychotic.

Not a video. He’s reckless, but not stupid. I have never heard of any involvement in dirty businesses.

Stavros definitely liked Paris Hilton a lot. For one she is actually really nice and fun in person. Further, he enjoyed the attention and the access to famous people and parties. Many people will argue that he could have had this access on his own, and he very well might have, but fact is, he didn't. Fact is that before he started dating MK and Paris, he and the friends he had at the time were worrying about how to even get inside certain clubs in LA.

After the Lindsay Lohan incident, Paris was through with Stav, and he was photographed crying on the lawn in front of her house, begging her to take him back. So at the very least, it must have been puppy love. Also, Stav didn’t mind getting photographed with Paris, I actually think he secretly enjoyed it, and there was lots of PDA. With Dasha there has never been a photo depicting the faintest hint of affection. He seems downright embarrassed about her and avoids photos like the plague.

Eugenie was Charlotte Casiraghi bff… nowadays , they are very different…

 

[Likeapeach]

And who was the girl Stavros was in love with? Why did they broke up? Was it Paris ??? Jessica Hart seems cool to me and I feel sorry for how the relationship ended after so long.

No it was after Paris Hilton, just after he had moved to NY. She was European, half this half that, I even think she was a little Greek, although she couldn’t have looked any less Greek. She was tall, blonde and skinny. Raised in Paris and Switzerland or sth like that. She was always with this best friend of hers from Gstaad. She too was out all the time, hardly ever working... a Christie’s internship here, a Goldman internship there and probably two sabbaticals in between. They were perfect for each other ) But in her defense, super educated, smart, witty and classy. Nothing to do with all the other girls he ever dated. No drugs, no scandals. And very beautiful. He was after her for a long time, but I don’t think they ever wound up dating. Either she turned him down, or he had enough of her games. I don’t remember. Bottom line, it didn’t work out and it seemed to have messed with his confidence. Before, he wouldn’t even have considered Jess Hart for more than a night. He started hanging out with her after things hadn’t worked out with the girl. A year or two later the girl disappeared, which was weird, because she was literally everywhere, not just in Manhattan… Paris fashion week, St. Moritz, Gstaad, London… I would really like to know what happened there…

 

[Likeapeach]

Eugenie was Charlotte Casiraghi bff… nowadays , they are very different…

True, they were inseparable! That was even before she started hanging out with Margherita and Tatiana. Always the two of them, everywhere together. Charlotte was so so beautiful back then… she still is of course… Euge always seemed to suffer in her shadow

 

[aire]

Porque escribís en inglés en un foro español, no tiene ningún sentido.

 

[Likeapeach]

Porque escribís en inglés en un foro español, no tiene ningún sentido.

Porque algunas personas respondieron a mi mensaje en español que no me entendieron. Me gusts mucho escribir en español, es por eso que me uní a este foro en primer lugar

 

[OrlandoL]

Eugenie was Charlotte Casiraghi bff… nowadays , they are very different…

Eugenia nunca llegó a BFF de Charlotte. Valetina Pozzo di Borgo fue la siamesa de Carlota durante años y luego desaparecio. Ahi, Carlote ya empezo a salir con Dellal y se le unio un grupo de amigos variados. Entre ellos la Niarchos. Todas sus salidas datan del 2012 al 2016. Niarchos de la que nunca se separaba era de Brandolini.

Pero, Carlota tiene pinta de hacerse amiga de los amigos del novio de turno e ir cambiando.

 

[OrlandoL]

Es bastante simple de entender.

Roman Abramovic te da dinero ilimitado y te permite pasar de ser simpliemente "rica" a un nivel estratosferico de dinero y poder. Te pone ademas en el mapa. Todos saben quien eres. Eso le permitio a esta mujer entrar en ciertos circulos y en todos los periodicos del mundo de golpe. Y lo hizo usando el dinero de Abramovich para crearse un perfil "artista". Le compro una revista y una galeria de arte y asi, por esa via, se acerco al circulo social al que realmente aspiraba. Daba igual que galeria y revista se fueran a la mierda, lo importante era usarlo como tarjeta de presentacion.

Pero claro, eres la mujer de Abramovich que estará forrado pero no deja de ser un señor ruso muy poco pulido, con conexiones muy peligrosas en el Kremlin, con unos negocios aun mas peligrosos y que por ejemplo, no consigue la residencia y ciudadania suiza por ser "un peligro para la seguridad del estado". Basicamente porque si Putin dice "salta", Roman Abramovich salta. Por la cuenta que le trae. Y a ella con Abramovich no la van a invitar a una boda real griega o a los sitios a los que se muere ella por asistir. Abramovich atrae a gente como el : un Trump, un Kushner, gente zafia. Y eso Dasha no lo quiere. Viene de ese ambiente y quiere mas.

Y llegó un momento en que ella ya no le era de utilidad a el (ya no era novedad para Roman que puede tener a quien quiera) y el no le era suficiente a ella, que queria old money, apellido rancio, no ser "invitada" al grupo con calzador, queria pertenecer por derecho propio. Queria ser parte del grupo como esposa de uno de los apellidos griegos de mas peso. Los Niarchos no son de lejos lo s armadores mas ricos pero si son los mas conocidos y los mas socialmente conectados.

Y por eso se ha casado con el. Le importa 3 pimientos que no tenga tanto dinero como el otro, tiene 2 hijos con Roman, tiene la espalda cubierta para siempre. Lo que quiere de este es respetabilidad, el apellido, que su hijo con el sea un heredero Niarchos, lque las familias como los Santo Domingo-Wellesley les inviten a cenar, salir del circulo "oligarca ruso".

Y en ello esta la mujer. Ahora, Stavros Niarchos lleva ya muchas vueltas por el mundo y muchas novias. Si se ha casado con esta y ha tenido un hijo con ella, desde luego que no le ha obligado nadie. Y si la familia Niarchos hubiera querido buscarle las vueltas a Dasha, podian de sobra haberla destrozado. Pero no han querido, le debe parecer bien la boda y el nuevo nieto y ya.

 

[Likeapeach]

Eugenia nunca llegó a BFF de Charlotte. Valetina Pozzo di Borgo fue la siamesa de Carlota durante años y luego desaparecio. Ahi, Carlote ya empezo a salir con Dellal y se le unio un grupo de amigos variados. Entre ellos la Niarchos. Todas sus salidas datan del 2012 al 2016. Niarchos de la que nunca se separaba era de Brandoloni.

Pero, Carlota tiene pinta de hacerse amiga de los amigos del novio de turno e ir cambiando

Hablo de principio de la década de los 2000s. Solía verlas en París, porque tenemos muchos amigos en común, y cada vez que veía a Eugenie en París, estaba con Charlotte. Se puede que no hay fotos de esta época, pero parecían inseparables.

Eugenie y Charlotte se conocen desde que nacieron. No se conocieron a través de Alex.